Ken Ham in Wichita, October 13th

October 15, 2007 at 9:21 am | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 1 Comment

This was easily the most bizarre meeting I’ve been to.

At the last minute, the venue was changed from Sunrise Academy to Immanuel, a truly impressive mega-church in Wichita. I have to admit, the change of venue to a church itself, and the odd way in which the meeting progressed had me raise the bar on my tolerance level before I’d say anything. Honestly, Ham has gotten rich off this for a good reason, he’s really slick about it, and the whole thing was such an odd mess that observing it was a lot to handle.

What was billed as a Christian rally for “reclaiming the culture,” was little more than a live infomercial.

Not only were all sorts of books available for sale in the lobby, which is normal, but so were DVDs, software, and a few other products like lotion made partially out of mud from the Dead Sea – which the president for Sunrise Academy claimed was for charity to benefit Myanmar.

Then, during the presentation, there were pitches for several different promotional offers during Brannon Howse’s presentation, which started with a lot of seemingly bizarre talk about current events in US politics.

As Howse was wrapping up, he introduced someone named Landon who gave a 15-minute sales pitch on Bible software, that he presented on each of the mega-church’s 2 giant screens.

Then Ham took the stage and made a series of juvenile comments, but I have to give credit where credit is due. He’s a bullshit artist like none I’ve seen. He really is funny and charming, and in his misinformation presentations in person, his delivery is of such a nature that he makes it hard to bust him in front of an audience who is there to buy what he’s selling. And I can tell that he’s scientifically literate, he’s just telling people lies that they want to hear.

After about 30-45 minutes, Ham started using the big screens to promote several of his own books and DVDs for sale in the lobby that were for sale at prices well below his claimed value.

Most of the products available had a value versus the night’s sale price. It was an infomercial. A really, really strange informercial for me, because I was actually there.

I could tell that a lot of the audience was uncomfortable as the product assault progressed, and several of them left as Ham went through product after product after product. And really, out of the crowd of, I think, about 2000, it seemed as though many of them were looking at each other puzzled as Ham spoke out against searching for objective historical truths.

This meeting gave me hope. It seemed for being an audience of die hards, they weren’t as lively or even interested as I’ve seen at most of the other meetings.

I have some audio of it which I will post soon.

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CORR Recap: “Teaching Origins Objectively”

March 30, 2007 at 5:14 am | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 7 Comments

This meeting was a joke. Only 10 people showed, including myself and a WSU faculty scientist that I recognized. Fitting for March, at the end there were only 4 including J. David Lehman, who is apparently taking a vacation from rescuing Mormons from their own religion.

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CORR returns to Wichita State

March 26, 2007 at 11:49 pm | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 2 Comments

Christians for Origins and Religious Research (CORR) has returned to holding meetings on the Wichita State campus after a hiatus of a few months following the departure of J. David Lehman, a thinning crowd, and a dwindling interest of the students and other regulars involved. I attended a few of the meetings after Lehman left, and Dr. Paul Ackerman (ICR and AiG listed creation scientist, CORR faculty sponsor, and psychology co-chair) took over as the main presenter. As main presenter, Dr. Ackerman did his best to stay out of misrepresenting science while focusing more on his version of Christian history. Because he stayed out of the ugly practice of misinforming the public about science, I didn’t have much to say at these meetings and did my best to stay out of the discussion. However, Thursday’s upcoming meeting is apparently aimed at provoking me (if I can attend) and other pro-science participants into not only discussing but interrupting. CORR will present a two-and-a-half hour long documentary, “Teaching Origins Objectively.” This is propaganda pimped by John Calvert at the ID Network about the mock trial that the Kansas State Board of Education was assanine enough to waste time and money on in May of 2005. The image from the email I received announcing the meeting is posted below, as well as information concerning another showing by Ackerman of the documentary in Wichita on April 12th.

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Dr. Bill Lucas Update: 9.5 weeks after being discredited

August 21, 2006 at 3:05 am | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 1 Comment

Just a quick note.

It’s been awhile before I checked in with Dr. Bill Lucas. I haven’t had any faith that his resume would change, and so I haven’t checked in. Looks like I was right to not be sitting on the edge of my seat as 9.5 weeks after his 2nd presentation to Wichita State and I brought to his attention that his resume was fictitious (and so was his claim of presenting of the AAAS), that’s 66 days, and Bill Lucas still has not corrected his resume.

On Friday, J. David Lehman and Dr. Paul Ackerman, the de-facto leader of CORR and the Wichita State faculty sponsor, brought in Dr. Jerry Bergman, a man with similar credibility issues who vehemently defended Dr. Lucas during his visit. Bergman is set to release a new book, The Long War by Darwinists Against Darwin Skeptics, where he “documents hundreds of cases of blatant discrimination against Creationist professors.” I don’t know if Bergman, who makes seriously questionable (if not flat out fictional) claims at persecution, will include himself and Lucas, who also makes such claims, or where the book will appear in the library.

Bergman Wichita State Recap

August 19, 2006 at 9:15 am | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 9 Comments

Audio Here

The size of the crowd was surprisingly small for this particular event, topping out at 70. The crowd for Bill Lucas’ first visit was much larger. The crowd was made up mostly of people who don’t work or attend WSU, a few families, a few teenagers, some older people, and a few scientists, a few of my fellow students, and myself.

Normally, I try to focus only on the science the presenter offers, but CORR leaders, de-facto leader Dave Lehman and faculty sponsor Dr. Paul Ackerman, burned us in the past by bringing in a speaker with false credentials, Dr. Charles William (Bill) Lucas Jr. (which can be found many times on this blog). So I focused on that, and left the science, of which there were many concerns, to faculty scientists and fellow students in the audience. Bergman’s presentation was to promote his “soon to be released book,” The Long War by Darwinists Against Darwin Skeptics, where he claims he “documents hundreds of cases of discrimination against Creationist professors,” a group he counts himself among. In my research of his story, I found that not to be the case, and so it was my focus in this presentation. Continue Reading Bergman Wichita State Recap…

“We…I need feedback from people who don’t accept my ideas.” – Jerry Bergman

August 18, 2006 at 6:05 am | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 1 Comment

The quote that titles this blog entry is from an August 17, 2006 radio interview by Jerry Bergman on “Kansas Live,” a show produced locally for American Family Radio. The transcription was provided to me by Dr. Van Stipdonk.
“We…I need feedback from people who don’t accept my ideas.” – Jerry Bergman

The following is the transcript from an excerpt of a tape provided to me by the AFR affiliate here in Wichita. At the end there are links to other media promoting the event.
The meeting at Wichita State is Friday, August 18th, room 208 of Hubbard Hall.

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New Bergman Poster for Friday’s Meeting

August 15, 2006 at 10:49 pm | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 4 Comments

Here is the NEW poster for the presentation by Bergman at WSU on Friday.

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Bergman’s CV and publications

August 14, 2006 at 2:57 pm | Posted in Journal of Anti-Science meetings | 19 Comments

The following is the CV and publications for Jerry Bergman provided to me by CORR de-facto leader J. David Lehman. It’s an interesting read, as Bergman’s mere existence seems to prove String Theory. The entire post is verbatim, except that Bergman’s personal contact information has been removed.

I apologize for the formatting issues, of which there were many, and that I’ve tried to clean up a bit.

 

 

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